1908–09 Crystal Palace F.C. season

1908–09 season of Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace 1908–09 football season

Crystal Palace
1908–09 season
Chairman	Sydney Bourne
Manager	Edmund Goodman
Southern Football League Division One	16th
FA Cup	Second round
Top goalscorer	League: Jimmy Bauchop 17 All: Jimmy Bauchop 20
Highest home attendance	17,076 (vs. Burnley, 6 February, FA Cup)
Lowest home attendance	1,500 (vs. Exeter City, 6 March)
Average home league attendance	7,519
← 1907–08 1909–10 →

The 1908–09 season saw Palace fail to reach the heights of the previous season. They had finished fourth in 1907-08, but this season would see them end up in 16th place. The squad underwent changes once again, with Matthew Edwards moving from Palace to Doncaster Rovers, Bill Forster moving to Grimsby Town, Billy Davies moving to West Bromwich Albion, Dick Roberts to Worcester City and Isaac Owens to Bath City.

Edward Collins came into the club from Carlisle United as a full back. James Thorpe, a half back, joined from Leeds City, while forward George Garratt joined from West Bromwich Albion. Adam Haywood joined as a player-coach, playing in a forward role, mainly as an inside right. Charles McGibbon, a centre forward, came from New Brompton and Bill Lawrence returned for a second spell at the club. Jimmy Bauchop not only finished the season top-scorer, he also started it off by becoming the first player to be sent off in a Palace shirt, on 9 September 1908 in a London Challenge Cup tie against Croydon Common.^[1]

Southern Football League First Division

Date	Opponents	H / A	Result F – A	Scorers	Attendance
1 September 1908	Coventry City	A	1 – 1	Bauchop	5,000
5 September 1908	Leyton	H	5 – 1	Bauchop 2, Swann, Woodger, unknown	10,000
12 September 1908	West Ham United	A	1 – 0	Woodger	10,000
16 September 1908	Southampton	H	2 – 3	Swann, Bauchop
19 September 1908	Brighton & Hove Albion	H	4 – 0	McGibbon 3, Bauchop	10,000
26 September 1908	Plymouth Argyle	A	0 – 0		8,000
30 September 1908	Norwich City	H	4 – 0	Woodger, Haywood, McGibbon, Lawrence	5,000
3 October 1908	Brentford	A	3 – 1	Haywood, Barker, McGibbon	6,000
5 October 1908	Southampton	A	4 – 4	McGibbon 3, Lawrence	5,000
10 October 1908	Luton Town	H	2 – 0	McGibbon, Woodger	10,000
15 October 1908	Norwich City	A	0 – 2		5,000
17 October 1908	Swindon Town	A	0 – 4		7,000
21 October 1908	Queen's Park Rangers	H	3 – 0	Garratt, Lawrence 2	6,000
24 October 1908	Portsmouth	H	3 – 2	Bauchop 3	9,500
31 October 1908	Exeter City	A	1 – 1	McGibbon	7,000
7 November 1908	Northampton Town	H	2 – 3	Swann 2	12,000
14 November 1908	New Brompton	A	1 – 2	McGibbon	4,000
21 November 1908	Millwall	H	2 – 1	Swann, Bauchop	10,000
28 November 1908	Southend United	A	0 – 1		6,000
12 December 1908	Bristol Rovers	A	2 – 2	Ryan, Bauchop	6,000
19 December 1908	Watford	H	3 – 1	McGibbon 2, Swann	8,000
26 December 1908	Reading	A	2 – 2	Woodger	11,000
2 January 1909	Leyton	A	0 – 2		4,000
9 January 1909	West Ham United	H	2 – 2	Bauchop, Woodger	6,000
23 January 1909	Brighton & Hove Albion	A	3 – 0		5,000
30 January 1909	Plymouth Argyle	H	0 – 1		6,000
13 February 1909	Luton Town	A	1 – 4	Bauchop	5,000
20 February 1909	Swindon Town	H	1 – 1	Swann	7,000
27 February 1909	Portsmouth	A	1 – 1	Bauchop	5,000
6 March 1909	Exeter City	H	0 – 0		1,500
13 March 1909	Northampton Town	A	0 – 1		7,000
17 March 1909	Southend United	H	1 – 3	Brearley
20 March 1909	New Brompton	H	1 – 2	Bauchop	4,000
27 March 1909	Millwall		1 – 2	Swann	5,000
31 March 1909	Brentford	H	3 – 1	Woodger 2, Bauchop	2,000
3 April 1909	Queen's Park Rangers	A	1 – 1	Swann	5,000
10 April 1909	Coventry City	H	0 – 1		5,000
12 April 1909	Reading	H	0 – 0		5,000
17 April 1909	Bristol Rovers	H	4 – 1	Lee 2, Swann, Bauchop	4,000
24 April 1909	Watford	A	1 – 5	Bauchop	4,000

Pos	Team v t e	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GR	Pts
14	Watford	40	14	9	17	51	64	0.797	37
15	Queens Park Rangers	40	12	12	16	52	50	1.040	36
16	Crystal Palace	40	12	12	16	62	62	1.000	36
17	West Ham United	40	16	4	20	56	60	0.933	36
18	Brighton & Hove Albion	40	14	7	19	60	61	0.984	35

Source: ^{[citation needed]}
Rules for classification: The system of using goal average to separate two teams tied on points was used until the 1976-77 season. The points system: 2 points for a win, 1 point for a draw and 0 points for losing.

FA Cup

Palace again entered the draw in the first round proper. They were drawn away to the winners of the previous season, Wolverhampton Wanderers. Bauchop, formerly of Celtic, secured a draw with two goals for Palace. In the replay, Wolves took the lead with barely a minute gone, before Palace equalised through Lawrence within 15 minutes. Bauchop then thought he had put Palace ahead, but was in an off-side position. Palace lost Ryan to an injury shortly before half-time and battled on with ten men, before Ryan re-entered the fray to help see them to the half-time whistle. Collins eventually put Palace ahead but they failed to hold onto the lead and a resurgent Wolves equalised with 8 minutes to play. The tie went to extra time, and Bauchop scored a third with Needham, covering at full back, putting the tie beyond Wolves in the final minute. The goal was recalled nearly forty years later by a letter writer to the Croydon Advertiser: "Needham playing at left back tackled and robbed a Wolves forward - a clever piece of play. Instead of passing the ball up field, he simply weaved his way through all the players and dribbled it right up to the Wolves' goal, putting in an unstoppable shot."^[2] In the second round they drew Burnley, drawing at home and losing the replay 9–0 in. The defeat remains the club's heaviest loss in the FA Cup.^[3]

Date	Round	Opponents	H / A	Result F – A	Scorers	Attendance
16 January 1909	First Round	Wolverhampton Wanderers	A	2 – 2	Bauchop 2	18,653
21 January 1909	First Round Replay	Wolverhampton Wanderers	H	4 – 2	Lawrence, Garratt, Bauchop, Needham	12,300
6 February 1909	Second Round	Burnley	H	0 – 0		17,066
10 February 1909	Second Round Replay	Burnley	A	0 – 9		12,000

Squad statistics

Pos.	Name	League		FA Cup		Total
Pos.	Name	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals
GK	Henry Balding	2	0	0	0	2	0
GK	Joshua Johnson	38	0	4	0	42	0
FB	Harry Collyer	27	0	4	0	31	0
FB	George Walker	8	0	0	0	8	0
FB	Edward Collins	24	0	3	0	27	0
HB	Wilf Innerd (c)	24	0	4	0	28	0
HB	Charles Ryan	28	1	4	0	32	1
HB	Fred Lewis	13	0	1	0	14	0
HB	John Brearley	39	1	4	0	40	1
HB	James Thorpe	17	0	0	0	17	0
HB	James Hullock	5	0	0	0	5	0
HB	Arthur Wilson	1	0	0	0	1	0
FW	George Garratt	33	1	4	1	37	2
FW	George Woodger	37	9	4	0	41	9
FW	Archie Needham	24	0	4	1	28	1
FW	Dick Roberts	2	0	0	0	2	0
FW	James Bauchop	35	17	4	3	39	20
FW	H. Higgins	1	0	0	0	1	0
FW	Herbert Swann	25	11	0	0	25	11
FW	Jack Kyle	3	0	0	0	3	0
FW	Adam Haywood	9	2	0	0	9	2
FW	Charles McGibbon	17	13	0	0	17	13
FW	H. Barker	6	1	0	0	6	1
FW	Bill Lawrence	16	4	4	1	20	5
FW	Frank Lee	6	2	0	0	6	2

Notes

References

Bibliography

King, Ian (2012). Crystal Palace: The Complete Record 1905–2011. Derby Books Publishing Company Limited. ISBN 978-1-78091-221-9.
Matthews, Tony (editor). We All Follow The Palace. Juma, 1998. ISBN 1-872204-55-4

Citations

^ King, 234-5
^ Matthews, pp. 17-18.
^ King, p. 443

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